sam_hoosier
01-03 04:13 PM
I think you bring up very valid points. For a lot of ppl who have stayed away from family/extended family for so long, they may not like the constant interference.
"I miss my parents" is not quantifiable but what about the paying back the debt by supporting your aging parents? Let me make the question a little broader, isn't every immigrant divided between doing what's best for the children and supporting the parents?
I dont think one is necessarily doing kids a dis-service by electing to go back. On the contrary, kids experience tremendous personal growth through interaction with extended family which is not possible in a foreign land.
"I miss my parents" is not quantifiable but what about the paying back the debt by supporting your aging parents? Let me make the question a little broader, isn't every immigrant divided between doing what's best for the children and supporting the parents?
I dont think one is necessarily doing kids a dis-service by electing to go back. On the contrary, kids experience tremendous personal growth through interaction with extended family which is not possible in a foreign land.
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07-14 02:39 PM
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priti8888
06-26 01:51 PM
What is america losing?
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
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bharol
08-16 10:24 PM
Looking at the recent approvals looks like USCIS does the following:
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
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kevinkris
06-02 07:19 PM
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pappu
09-13 05:31 PM
Today I was hoping to exceed my contribution of $300 from yesterday. Looks like it is not goint to happen today. But it will be a bummer if I can't match yesterday's contribution.
We (GCNaseeb, sunty, bala our special guest and I) need just two more shooter to make a contribution of $100 who have never contributed before.
Thanks Milind123 for your contributions and leading this effort
We (GCNaseeb, sunty, bala our special guest and I) need just two more shooter to make a contribution of $100 who have never contributed before.
Thanks Milind123 for your contributions and leading this effort
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amits
07-23 11:37 PM
Superb! I am going to try this in my company...
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485Mbe4001
02-01 04:19 PM
Do we have a meeting scheduled today? if yes at what time?
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ultimo
07-24 08:53 AM
thats sad .
but they will come with a new bill after 2008 election :)
but they will come with a new bill after 2008 election :)
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madhu345
02-24 04:18 PM
May be our kids in future will have to wait inline for Indian Residency:p
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astral1977
07-28 05:57 PM
My company applied for PERM ALC EB-2 category at Atlanta on 18th June 2007, got it approved on 20th June. Received hard copy on 26th June.
can people also give idea how long/when u got the certified hard copy of approval esp if from atlanta
can people also give idea how long/when u got the certified hard copy of approval esp if from atlanta
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Libra
09-14 10:15 AM
thank you deardar and claudia255 for the contributions.
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Macaca
09-14 06:38 PM
Immigration vote sinks H-1B visa deal (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=94517&postcount=567) Collapse of Senate bill derails tech's bid for more foreigners ByTom Abate (tabate@sfchronicle.com) | Chronicle Staff Writer, June 30, 2007
VISA PLAN ANGERS SILICON VALLEY (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=78888&postcount=136) Immigration bill would limit employers' choice of workers By Carolyn Lochhead (clochhead@sfchronicle.com) | Chronicle Washington Bureau, June 7, 2007
VISA PLAN ANGERS SILICON VALLEY (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=78888&postcount=136) Immigration bill would limit employers' choice of workers By Carolyn Lochhead (clochhead@sfchronicle.com) | Chronicle Washington Bureau, June 7, 2007
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logiclife
07-06 12:13 PM
I have changed the thread title.
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pbojja
09-11 10:58 PM
when do we all send it? should we wait for oct 2nd?
Also is it a crime to send such letters in bulk to a govt agency?(kinda spamm?)
Lets get it started this week end ..our goal should be getting follwoing answers from CIS and DOS ..
Dear DOS,
On what basis dates are moved to PD 2006 for India and China during Aug and September ? Is there a memorandum which justifies this move ?
Dear USCIS,
1> On what basis you are processing the applications ? Receipt Date,Notice Date or Priority Date ? How can you justify approving 2006 cases
2> How many 485 applications are pending for India and China , year wise ? Why is it so difficult to publish ? why are we in dark and guessing things ?
3>What the customer service is for ? your 1-800 number information is so use less ...Why can not they even inform us about our Priority date or Name Check cleareance ? And the service tickets are next to useless
Dear TSC and NSC ...
1> How come your processing dates are going back wards ? How can you justify that ?
Can some one please post the addresses ? I will send the books including letters this week end .
Dont worry about spam ..we have every right to express our selfs ...we are in free country as they say
Also is it a crime to send such letters in bulk to a govt agency?(kinda spamm?)
Lets get it started this week end ..our goal should be getting follwoing answers from CIS and DOS ..
Dear DOS,
On what basis dates are moved to PD 2006 for India and China during Aug and September ? Is there a memorandum which justifies this move ?
Dear USCIS,
1> On what basis you are processing the applications ? Receipt Date,Notice Date or Priority Date ? How can you justify approving 2006 cases
2> How many 485 applications are pending for India and China , year wise ? Why is it so difficult to publish ? why are we in dark and guessing things ?
3>What the customer service is for ? your 1-800 number information is so use less ...Why can not they even inform us about our Priority date or Name Check cleareance ? And the service tickets are next to useless
Dear TSC and NSC ...
1> How come your processing dates are going back wards ? How can you justify that ?
Can some one please post the addresses ? I will send the books including letters this week end .
Dont worry about spam ..we have every right to express our selfs ...we are in free country as they say
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psaxena
03-03 01:42 PM
The first bulletin with Eb1 and Eb2 spill over.
Last year:
Mar 2008- India Eb2 U
Apr 2008- India-Eb2 01 Dec 03
This year may be:
Mar 2009- India Eb2 15 Feb 04
Apr 2009- India Eb2 28 Feb 05 (My PD :))
What about EB3, any predictions????:)
Last year:
Mar 2008- India Eb2 U
Apr 2008- India-Eb2 01 Dec 03
This year may be:
Mar 2009- India Eb2 15 Feb 04
Apr 2009- India Eb2 28 Feb 05 (My PD :))
What about EB3, any predictions????:)
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santb1975
07-19 12:12 PM
I have been contributing 50$ a month so far. I upgraded that to 100$ every month. Please contribute.
Also I was wondering Isn't there a way to upgrade from 50$ to 100$ by changing the amount. I had to sign up for 100$ recurring and cancel the 50$ recurring contribution. Could be just me today :-)
Also I was wondering Isn't there a way to upgrade from 50$ to 100$ by changing the amount. I had to sign up for 100$ recurring and cancel the 50$ recurring contribution. Could be just me today :-)
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diptam
08-05 11:04 AM
lonedesi,
I saw your post last night and have some changes in mind for the NSC letter. But right now I'm working on having the 7001 piece out from my employer - hope others are doing that as well.
Thanks again for the initiative - Its always better to speak up about your pain rather than remaining silent.
Thanks!
Members, who were complaining about the slow processing of I-140's at TSC & NSC, now is the time to stand up and get counted. Please take the time to review the letter and then mail the DHS Form 7001 along with the letter to USCIS Ombudsman's office.
Members who have already done so, please encourage others suffering from these delays to join this campaign to make it effective. Also, please post on this thread once you have mailed the letters, so that others get motivated to join.
I saw your post last night and have some changes in mind for the NSC letter. But right now I'm working on having the 7001 piece out from my employer - hope others are doing that as well.
Thanks again for the initiative - Its always better to speak up about your pain rather than remaining silent.
Thanks!
Members, who were complaining about the slow processing of I-140's at TSC & NSC, now is the time to stand up and get counted. Please take the time to review the letter and then mail the DHS Form 7001 along with the letter to USCIS Ombudsman's office.
Members who have already done so, please encourage others suffering from these delays to join this campaign to make it effective. Also, please post on this thread once you have mailed the letters, so that others get motivated to join.
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qplearn
11-16 12:35 PM
Good job, Jimi!!
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09-15 06:57 PM
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U DA MAN - THANKS - PLEASE MAKE IT TO THE RALLY AND GET OTHERS ALSO
pappu
12-16 03:37 PM
I'snt tracker broken (Sorting by PD ) for some time now.
We will improve it soon. But the data is still useful.
We will improve it soon. But the data is still useful.
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